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All boats lost in the ARC. My mistake,, Hunter rudder 2002, not 3
By:Dan y - Shelter Bay Marina, Panama, Hurrah!
Date: 10/29/2008, 11:20 am

This was all the boats lost as per the ARC site.

Incidents - Yachts Lost at Sea 1987 Bamaca Westerly 33 drove onto reef off Barbados 1988 Freedom Bavaria 38 drove onto reef off Barbados 1990 Chaot broke rudder stock, yacht abandoned 1998 Harlequin Dehler 41 damaged rudder stock, yacht abandoned 2002 F2 Hunter Legend 450 broke rudder stock, yacht abandoned

Interesting thing,,, that only three boats were abandoned and all three were rudder malfunctions. You can't really count driving a boat onto a reef as a boat problem.

Messages In This Thread

Amver - I was reading some of the news of rescues and -- Tas - Parkville, MO -- 10/17/2008, 5:27 pm
Tehg Amver site makes for scary reading. I found it disconcerting -- neil -- 10/18/2008, 5:10 pm
Why does a "rudder malfunction" lead to the abandonment of a boat? -- DDW -- 10/18/2008, 6:18 pm
After watching the video, second thoughts... -- DDW -- 10/18/2008, 6:29 pm
:) .... DDW, the press release below the Video one, has more info -- Tas - Parkville, MO -- 10/18/2008, 6:48 pm
Yeah, read it already, still don't get it. -- DDW -- 10/18/2008, 8:20 pm
Well, it took a bit a searching.......but I found a little more info on the rescue! (pic) -- Tas - Parkville, MO -- 10/19/2008, 4:54 pm
Speaking of Hunters dropping rudders... -- Jon Eisberg -- 10/19/2008, 7:49 am
What's a Pinto ? -- Peter M -- 10/19/2008, 8:12 am
I saw that over on SA. Interesting thing, it was being presented as evidence that spade rudders are weak... -- DDW -- 10/19/2008, 9:09 am
Hey, I thought the Pinto was a fantastic car (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/19/2008, 10:27 am
Ahhh yes ...the proverbial family crematorium on wheels - bully car! (nm) -- Ron Chappell -- 10/19/2008, 11:38 am
Heeeeeeeeeeey! Charlie's Angels drove one!! (nm) -- DM -- 10/19/2008, 7:24 pm
I guess that's how they got to be angels (nm) (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/19/2008, 7:57 pm
Ahhhhhh. No, that's not how. (nm) -- DM -- 10/20/2008, 1:05 am
My brother collects and restores Corvairs (link) (pic) -- sded J/40 -- 10/19/2008, 7:28 pm
If it weren't for Nader, cars would have had race-car style 4-wheel independant suspensions a couple decades earlier. (nm) -- DM -- 10/19/2008, 7:38 pm
Hey, they wouldn't be worth collecting without Ralph (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/19/2008, 7:58 pm
Pinto gas tanks -- JohnA -- 10/19/2008, 11:47 am
LOL........16 lost in the last 2 years, and they were only able to review 13 of the 16. -- Tas - Parkville, MO -- 10/19/2008, 5:13 pm
I take it that Hunter is saying that they screwed up with out really saying it. -- Dan y - Dana Point Ca -- 10/19/2008, 6:03 pm
Any judge would see through that too -- Larry - DH -- 10/19/2008, 6:15 pm
Does anyone know if they were really made out of "fiberglass" composite, rather than carbon fiber? (nm) -- DDW -- 10/19/2008, 8:41 pm
Pick apart one paragraph -- Dan y - Dana Point Ca -- 10/20/2008, 6:02 am
And the minimum wage worker had a Green Card or No? (nm) -- Michael -- 10/20/2008, 7:51 am
I like the part about learning how to sail without a rudder -- Jeremy McGeary -- 10/20/2008, 6:43 pm
It's balance and drag or a dinghy outboard. -- Michael -- 10/21/2008, 10:58 am
You can't practice steering without a rudder if you have a rudder -- Jeremy McGeary -- 10/21/2008, 2:28 pm
I can. My rudder lifts up completely out of the water. (pic) -- Larry - DH -- 10/21/2008, 3:16 pm
Yours is a rare exception, tho I was on a boat in Annapolis -- Jeremy McGeary -- 10/21/2008, 7:50 pm
Well aren't racing boats expected to break anyway? -- Michael -- 10/21/2008, 4:30 pm
Racing boats? -- DDW -- 10/21/2008, 4:40 pm
Yeah.......my racing boats rudder would break away -- Tas - Parkville, MO -- 10/21/2008, 5:07 pm
Several thoughts on Hunters and Seamanship in General -- Al Hatch -- 10/19/2008, 9:21 am
Hey, at least 80 percent of the ones they checked (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/19/2008, 10:29 am
No bad boats...even Hunters....but... -- DDW -- 10/19/2008, 12:19 pm
Insurance for First Boat (pic) -- Mark Steinbeck s/v Nirvana -- 10/19/2008, 11:06 pm
Friend who owns a Hunter does carry a spare rudder... -- Gene C -- 10/20/2008, 1:56 pm
Hunter Production -- gs -- 10/27/2008, 10:22 am
"Hunter(s)...are perfect...making an extended passage to new ports of call" -- DDW -- 10/27/2008, 4:18 pm
Hunter Website -- gs -- 10/28/2008, 4:57 am
Fair enough. (nm) -- DDW -- 10/28/2008, 4:42 pm
I remember a few years ago in the 2003 ARC -- Dan y - Shelter Bay Marina, Panama, Hurrah! -- 10/28/2008, 10:08 am
And in other years, different manufacturers boats were lost. Not a very useful single data point. (nm) -- Paul L -- 10/29/2008, 7:42 am
All boats lost in the ARC. My mistake,, Hunter rudder 2002, not 3 -- Dan y - Shelter Bay Marina, Panama, Hurrah! -- 10/29/2008, 11:20 am
More Rudder Failures (link) (pic) -- gs -- 10/29/2008, 1:16 pm
Rudders (link) -- gs -- 10/29/2008, 1:28 pm
So "gs" are we to conclude that Hunter isn't the only maker with quality problems? That doesn't make it OK. (nm) -- Larry - DH -- 10/29/2008, 2:01 pm
Or perhaps it is not a quality issue... -- Gene C -- 10/29/2008, 2:29 pm
To me, the biggest issue is that the boats had to be abandoned -- Jeremy McGeary -- 10/29/2008, 4:41 pm
Hey, what happened with the time? -- Jeremy McGeary -- 10/29/2008, 4:43 pm
A trip around any boatyard will confirm that many rudders are underbuilt... -- DDW -- 10/30/2008, 4:56 pm
Since we are talking about rudders (link) (pic) -- sded J/40 -- 10/30/2008, 6:22 pm
That looks robust... (pic) -- DDW -- 10/31/2008, 1:42 pm
Quality Issues (link) -- gs -- 10/30/2008, 5:26 am
More Rudder Failures #2 (link) (pic) -- gs -- 10/29/2008, 1:24 pm
So whatever happened to jury rigging a rudder or -- Al Hatch -- 10/29/2008, 7:13 pm
Too much work (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/29/2008, 7:34 pm
Easier said than done, probably. -- Greg Kozlowski -- 10/30/2008, 2:32 am
What do the eunuch gurus say? -- DM -- 10/30/2008, 5:38 am
Always the bad language -- tl -- 10/30/2008, 3:33 pm
There is no BAD language -- Greg Kozlowski -- 10/30/2008, 7:21 pm
Disrespect for your readers (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/30/2008, 7:45 pm
Not at all. You get a C- for trying, though -- Greg Kozlowski -- 10/30/2008, 8:19 pm
Greg, that's very disrespectful of... -- Ron Chappell -- 11/1/2008, 9:18 am
OH, YEAH, welllll (link) -- Brian Grant -- 11/1/2008, 9:47 am
Wait..ain't this the Chappell by the Sea? I think I heard about him. (nm) -- Westcoaster, HMS 18, Jaunty -- 11/1/2008, 10:21 am
Boys, that's pronounced "Shup-pell" ...you know like the comedian Dave Chappell (nm) -- Ron Chappell -- 11/1/2008, 4:30 pm
You can't spell your own name and (link) -- Brian Grant -- 11/1/2008, 5:01 pm
What the....! (nm) -- Ron Chappell -- 11/2/2008, 7:09 am
Pretty funny Brian :) (nm) -- Larry - DH -- 11/2/2008, 7:20 am
LOL...The spelling was deliberate -- Greg Kozlowski -- 11/1/2008, 7:21 pm
I suspected as much Greg - just couldn't pass it up :) (nm) -- Ron Chappell -- 11/2/2008, 6:42 am
In my opinion... -- Hagar -- 10/31/2008, 6:11 am
You get a C+ for trying, too -- Greg Kozlowski -- 10/31/2008, 7:45 am
the real discussion should be why so many boats got to sea with no back up rudder -- Catalina Kids -- 10/31/2008, 3:47 pm
Faith. They are "special". -- DM -- 10/31/2008, 4:10 pm
Whassa matter? (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/31/2008, 6:15 pm
I've got a backup rudder 24/7! :) (nm) -- 2Hulls Dave -- 11/2/2008, 2:38 pm
Nice. Used to be a Suzanna from South America who posted here... -- Larry - DH -- 11/2/2008, 4:04 pm
I've heard similar stories. -- 2hulls Dave -- 11/3/2008, 5:07 am
I have a kick-up rudder, and it has been tested. It works. -- Larry - DH -- 11/3/2008, 6:18 am
Hagar, you'll have to pardon Greg (link) -- Brian Grant -- 10/31/2008, 12:17 pm
No problem. -- Hagar -- 10/31/2008, 12:49 pm

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