In the wayback days of BB, even before Cruising World's board, there used to be a guy who'd just rip a post like this apart. He'd scream about not carrying your own weight and doing some research. I forget the guys name but he had a real hatred of cruise ships and used to call them curise shi$ps. His thoughts were, if you're going to do this, then you need to put something into it, kind of like having a vested interest in reaching the goal. Some folks do not know how to start.