with Evans Starzinger and Beth Leonard. He told me that he might put Hawk up for sail in a couple of years and that was three years ago. If he's not ready to sell, he could fill Neil in on just about everything he might want to know about aluminum boats. They have a web site that that might answer some of his questions as well. Hawk is a boat built for real sailing! They are such nice people to talk with as a side note. I don't think he could go wrong.