new Valiant in your future...for the unbelievable this-month-only (some terms and conditions may apply; see dealer for details; offer not valid in the State of California; this offer is not transferable; prices may change, so hurry on down; does not include taxes, title, transfer and other dealer incentives) sailaway price of only, yes, $599,999

You remember the link I posted elsewhere, Saving Sailing (book/website/public discussion)... http://www.savingsailing.com/Home/Saving_Sailing.html He, and others, have some interesting things to say.