On the other hand, I've been sailing in North Carolina for over forty years and never had a problem. All I'm saying is, I never appreciated what was here till I saw somewhere else a lot more reknowned. What I like and dislike about anywhere is not really relevant to anyone else's experience. There's no doubt a lot of you have sailed and traveled a thousand times more than I have. I just spoke to my own preferences, no one else's. Hey, I didn't like the Yugo either but a lot of folks bought them. Go see, travel, sail, make up your own mind.