and the Tab I was looking at is right at that. By the time you add the rest of the camping equipment like the BbQ wood for a fire tables, chairs, food you are pushing up against my limit. The gear ratio has too much between 4th and 5th to take hills well. It's fine unloaded but loaded, it would have some issues. She's fine at climbing rocks but would lack in towing. IMHO. I as well , beg your pardon for this transgression.