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keel question for Todd Dunn (anyone feel free to chime in)

TD, last year you posted a very informative(at least to me) answer to a question I had about the IP27 keel. The formulas you used came up with the answer that the boat was basically a tub which pretty much sums up the way it turned. My question to you is this.........is there an ideal set of dimensions (LOA, LWL, Beam, Draft?) where a full keel boat is no longer tub-like?

Where the IP was a very stable platform going in a straight line, it had characteristics I really liked. The fact that it wouldn't turn when under sail or power was annoying and at times, scary. I was hoping that a compromise is possible where the bad traits mostly go away but the good traits are still there?

Why are you asking this question Craig? Well, absolutely no insult intended to anyone here that owns one but this particular model and year of Hunter is crap. I'm not saying all their boats are the same, I can only speak for this particular 2008 H27-3 and want to emphasize that point. The features are exactly what we were looking for, the layout is perfect, even the parts used are decent quality but the workmanship and build quality is garbage to the point where I would be concerned to be out on Lake Erie in a storm. Our old Catalina 27 was far better constructed. I'm still finding and fixing things that were done poorly in the build plus finding things that make no sense. For example, two weeks ago I pulled up a section of the cockpit sole to service the cable, clamps and check the steering quadrant which live in what amounts to a drain well. According to the schematics there should be two outlets under the decking which empty overboard. One for the manual bilge pump the other for the optional high bilge water package the PO ordered with the boat. There was only one outlet for the manual bilge pump. Strange because the boat was listed as having the high water option and there is the light, alarm and test switch in the cockpit. That is supposed to be triggered when the water gets just below the floorboards in the bilge which also kicks on a second, larger bilge pump. After searching the bilge it turns out there was never a pump installed, just a float switch to turn on the pump. o, the plan is to finish fixing and replacing things and more carefully look for another boat knowing now that I can't assume boats are created equal.

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