had anything to do with their not selling or building the boat? I couldn't tell for sure, but I don't think that base price included sails? At any rate, it would have retailed for 400k 4 years ago. I think that fact alone, 38' of cruising boat for 400k, has stymied many builders of higher end sailboats. They simply can't cut the costs lower and make a go of it.

And then in the quality market PSC would have presented the boat, you could likely get a Sabre, even a Morris 38'er built in the 400k area in 2007.

I think cost wise, other mid range builders(Beneteau, Catalina, etc) are selling larger boats (volume wise) for less money. While those boats don't appeal to me (beamier, bigger aft cabins), that appears to be the bulk of the new boat market in this 40 foot range. And that market appears to be dwindling.

This all raises a few question I don't understand. For one above, "While these boats don't appeal to me",.. I think I'm not alone in that most of us seem to be out of touch with this new market. Also, most of us, who own used boats, are not new boat buyers.

More perplexing to me, while these well built 40' offerings from higher end semi production builders sit waiting for buyers, some success has been seen in an even higher end market, the daysailers like the Morris DS series. Without the DS series, a few motorboats and then the ability to maintain existing fleets and a vibrant brokerage, I don't see how a business like Morris would be surviving right now on what they used to build, that which PSC and Valiant only built.

Maybe builders like PSC and Valiant didn't have enough irons in the fire to diversify and survive. Will boats like the PSC 38 or Valiant 42, or say a Morris Justine 36 make a come back and be built new again?

I for one don't think so and that's through no fault of the designs. I think the future is a different market.