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• Another boat abandoned after rudder failure!
  • Oh, yeah, it took them only two hours to decide to call for a tow
    • Here she is (pic)
      • Another one of those J boats going down.
        • Yeah, good one. Not a J Boat at all, but sure is a performance boat too.
          • It does boggle the mind that these things break in benign conditions.
            • Yes, sure would be good to read an after the fact report in a lot of these cases
              • The Brits do it right when investigating yacht disasters (link)
                • The German authorities will investigate this thoroughly as well (link)
                • You know, funny you mention "Ouzo" --I remember that very sad accident from a few years ago
                  • People with photochromic glasses should read that report (link)
                  • Wow, I just realized the radar reflector has been set wrong...
                    • That's one of the good things about enclosed reflectors
                    • Seeing radar reflectors set up wrong used to drive me crazy.
                    • Radar Reflector Picture
                      • Exactly what GeneC was saying
                        • uh, thanks for the inclusion, but...
                        • double catch rain
                          • What I took away from browsing the Ouzo report (section on radar reflectors)
                            • What I see (and probably most)
                              • Gosh, I wonder what the Hiscocks would think about all of this??
                                • Well, to start with they might be alarmed at the increase in shipping
                            • Bottom line....
                              • agree
                                • Rick...
                      • Proabably hard to see in the picture
                        • BTW, a good source on radar reflectors
            • Re: It does boggle the mind that these things break in benign conditio
    • I remember a story of some Aussies last year...
    • A far cry from several stories one reads of
  • "The yacht was equipped with a deep and efficient rudder for optimal control at high speed. "
    • It's surprising the number of folks who think the emergency tiller is an amergency rudder. (nm) (link) (pic)
    • Deck cleats being pulled off.
      • No mention of the sea state, etc. ....
      • That part has me wondering also
        • lack of imagination on your part
          • Sorry Jerry -- also hard to imagine a ULDB racing boat with steel decks. ;) (nm)
        • Race boat need to have strong cleats
        • Many ULDB racing boats have no cleats at all...
          • Fast is fun --until it all starts to break apart :-) (nm)
        • Look at the link in Mike's post
          • Look at image #8 in 15. That shows the underside of the hull-deck joint
            • I think even with the softest hands on the throttle (link)
              • That's why one would rig lines on both the port and starboard sides to the mast or the main winches. (nm)
                • Or drag something behind the boat ...
                  • Yes, or maybe to steer the boat by rigging something that would allow for sufficent control. (nm)
                • If the deck cleats had no backing, why would the winches?
                  • My observation has to do with the bow cleats because of the position relative to hull deck joint.
            • In picture #8 I think you're looking at a sail track which is farther inboard, Larry
          • Doesn't surprise me in the least the cleats tore out, I suspect most of us would suffer a similar failure...