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• Well, Kate and I just finished the Carribbean 1500 Bahama Rally....SAD news...
  • This a picture of the Palm Beach, FL inlet! One can only imagine what it was like where that boat was lost.
  • that is such horrible news Bernie. I'm so sorry. Do you have any other pics than the one you posted?...
  • From the Carribbean 1500.....
    • That would be a dangerous practice to start
      • This gets close to involuntary manslaughter.
        • Or negligent homicide.
          • You guys are too quick to accuse of very serious charges, especially without knowing the particulars
            • I can't believe anyone tried to go through
              • Mayb the Captain....
                • Actually, I'm not bagging on the skipper/owner.
    • was he in contact with any of the other rally participants or his fleet captain? For example...
      • "but made a poor decision in a stressful time"?
        • did he try to stay out and then for some reason have no choice?
      • I'm with you Rob. I've hit rocks in broad daylight, what could be stupider than that?
        • if nobody ever screwed up there would be no need for insurance would there?
        • I "third" that! If everything went as it should there would be no such thing as an "accident".
          • I was there, and offshore...it definitely wasn't bad....
            • Why be so easy on the guy?
        • Me, too - I could write a book about all the stoopid things I've done, but...
          • I try not enter the Delaware Bay at night...
          • I've tried hard ...
            • Atlanta News Story - The Captain's Wife and Laura Zekoll were Seasick
              • many a sailor has come to grief
                • Yes, Captain Blye's boats never had such problems -- but they had their own
              • Well, just take a look at the freakin' thing - should that come as any surprise...?
                • Wow -- deck's all wet in what looks like 12 knots!
                  • You guys are as catty as a bunch of country club ladies
                • I would think a 45' Jeaneau would be capable of sailing a crew of 4 to the Caribbean Jon.
                  • Oh, of course it could...
                  • I've played around with the possible options the captain had,,,,
                    • The problem came up too quickly...
                    • I don't know, Dan - but I think that's a bit harsh...
                      • sleep
                        • what's sad is that the skipper/owner of Rule 62 will "make up some great excuses" for his bludder...
                          • stupidity is the easiest fault to forgive and identify with
                      • The best usage of our giant salon floor is
                        • You went OUT Galliot Cut to get to Ocean Cabin, that doesn't make any sense ...
                          • You Stupid XXX you should have joined a Rally
                            • Problem is that:
                              • Ok B; wha would be....
                                • here it is...what makes a offshore sailor
                                  • Age!
                                    • I doubt Harry Callahan was a sailor, but he offered the best advice ever to sailors, offshore or no...
                                      • Perhaps that's what the captain of Rule 62 had
                                      • And another Bravo to you Jon!!
                                    • Well said
                                  • Like you're list...
                                  • You missed one very important thing ...
                                    • "humble, kind and forgiving" are very rare traits but people with them are always pleasure to sail with...
                                  • Bravo!! Bravo!! Bernie I couldn't have said it better!
                              • now that's a quote worthy of posting up on the Carib1500 web site.
                          • There wasn't enough depth to easily do it at that time
                            • Oh yeah!,, Weren't we talking about stupid moves?
                            • I found the Admiral recollection on our website
                              • YUP ... when in doubt, Dotham Cut is by far the ...
                            • No, you probably just looked at the Charts, and they are off in that area ...
                      • This is in fact the big problem with electronic charts...
                        • Besides...
                          • Paper charts can be off too...
                            • Look around outside...
                          • Nah, the plotter is always right... well, except maybe in Third World countries like Canuckistan...
                            • I got you beat Jon
                              • Well at least you had the sense to...
                            • never ever trust a chart plotter...
                        • With all due respect, I find it difficult
                          • The cost of CHS charts....
                            • Well, there is no doubt that the price can add up.
                              • Paper charts and cruising guides
                                • Today's state of technology is such that...
                                  • I guess I'm old fashioned
                                    • I just sold my S. Pacific paper charts...
                • I'm sure that it was pretty uncomfortable conditions.
          • Put me down for a copy of that book!
      • On the Caribbean 1500 Website
        • That site gives the last position of Rule 62
          • North Bar Channel
            • I wonder whehter misuse of GPS was a
              • Of course it was...
      • very good questions, Rob
  • People don't trust local knowledge.