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• Boat lost, 3 dead in Newport to Enseneda race
  • More from AP (as distributed by the Washington Post) - Aegian
  • Aegian was a Hunter 37
    • I'm not sure what difference the type of boat would make in a collision, assumingly with a very large ship.
      • Probably little difference. The boat's posted pictures looked pretty clean.
        • There won't be AIS records if it was one of the stealth
      • Disagree,,,
        • Disagree
          • I doubt the reef will suck you and the vessel down 15 feet and shred your crew and stuff through giant props
            • That I agree with!
              • Dan, that story reminds me of this....
                • Great movie! I think his first real film.
          • OK, OK. I made a glib remark and analogy without a lot of serious thought.
        • No comparison
          • On the other hand
      • Just as easy to blame it on it being a rental.
        • Braden! Heading east soon?
        • Not as soon as I'd like.
        • I read that it was a rental at first too, but I think it was the skipper's own boat.
  • One report says from the debris, "looks like the boat went through a blender"
    • no small boat
      • That would be worse than anything I could think of to happen to a small boat.
        • Wood chipper is gruesome
          • in Eastern CT
        • well, the boat would sink and be ripped apart
    • Yeah, a 100,000 HP blender!
  • I wonder if there was a 'notice to mariners' posted for the race?
  • Maybe an explosion?
    • I think they have ruled that out upon examination of the fragments of the boat.
  • Speculation is frieghter...
  • The most comprehensive report I have seen thus far...
    • Good writeup.
  • Latest info - SPOT tracker shows them ...
    • How could running into an island "shred" a boat such?
      • From what I'm reading on Sailing Anarchy...
        • From the track it appears they just ran aground on a rock
          • I wonder why the SPOT tracks stop just at number 50...
            • most recent report on a SPOT is always #50
              • Ah, okay, thanks.
        • Agreed, it is a steep sharp cliff there.
      • How could it break up in such small pieces? One word!
        • CG is wavering on what might have happened.
        • One word?
    • The Spot Slogan: "Live to Tell About It" doesn't ring true.
    • So being a Hunter sailing into a rocky cliff, would a Gulfstar or Shannon fared any better?
      • a diver could determine the answer
      • I believe so.
      • Sounding more and more like tillerman-style navigating, to me...
        • I thought I read some had done it before...
          • Jon's hunch could be right
            • Sure, but the skipper knew the islands were there.
              • Maybe inexperienced crew on watch altered course?
                • No signs of course altering in that tack.
                  • So maybe Jon pegged it. Stupid and tragic mistake, if that's the case.
            • Hard to believe, for me because
              • Me too. No use in demonizing electronics, or lack of.
              • Can't help but notice that's a Hunter without an arch...
                • Could be... (or could pee)
                • That's really good Jon.
                  • A classic case of a vessel “Not Under Command” for several hours is sounding more and more plausible…
                    • My Q would be: Were they a part of a race? Who races under power? (Not to mention without sail trimming?)
        • Easy thing to do for someone who isn't that familiar with a particular plotter...
      • If my reading of a chart is correct
    • An observation
      • Last observation 04:36.35. The one before that 04:26.54
        • oops
          • cut the other end, that'll work. GRIN
      • Another observation...
        • Your observation looks a lot more accurate than mine
  • Then there's this report, I witness says she saw the boat run down by a tanker.
    • I didn't see any mention of a colission in the text
      • It's here, fairly early in the story, but it makes no sense
        • Especially at night... awful hard to see well any distance.
          • Or it's a misinterpreted masthead sailing light on the horizon
        • And she called the Mayday ?
        • Her claim seems bizzare, but it's right there. They must be following up on it?
          • I wonder if the CG in this area even has the right resources...
            • Latest update... ah ha! The GPS data...
              • LA Times going with Island therory
    • Sounds like an Eileen Quinn song