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• Hylas 70 on the Rocks (near Camden)
  • Blow-up
  • Route to Pulpit
    • Autoguidance is another one.....
    • Really no good excuses
      • "Low" not 'load" tide (another dumb typing mistake) :^))
      • That pic also show why the mast broke just above the boom
        • I'm not sure about that...
          • You spent more time looking then I did
            • They are supposed engineer for that and build it to match in the computer controlled process
      • Perhaps that boat needed a 3rd plotter, to break any potential "tie"...
        • "owners FIRST boat was a Hylas 54..." Bingo Jon!
          • LOL! Uhhh, re-read the second sentence of my post, please... (grin)
            • "Not that it's particularly relevant", good point(any relevance, at all...?). You're like a lazy prosecutor, Jon,
              • OK, so it has no relevance whatsoever...
                • I almost hit a sea buoy this weekend
                  • If you hit one between the hulls, it is oh shit!
                  • Modern autopilots.
                    • Only if...
                      • Our B&G and the Simrad (a/k/a Robertson) go to the route line unless you hit reset.
                        • But what if you don't set a waypoint or course?
                          • It creates a two point line -- like a leg of a route
                            • No I don't think we're talking about the same thing
                              • I thought you were talking about a GPS waypoint?
                              • there is another mode
                                • Hmmm, that might have saved the captain's bacon, in this instance...
                                  • Just reading that, my brain is spinning
                                    • LOL! Ahh, you and your quaint notions... You mean STEERING, like by using your HANDS??? (grin)...
                                  • Wow! What a scenario, Jon. Can you tell us what shirt he had on and what he had for breakfast?
                                    • LOL! Nope, I was simply replying to Mark's mention of Simrad's feature...
                                      • Spilled coffee/Pepsi syndrome
                            • Incidents and resulting discussions like this one are precisely why...
                              • I'm in the same camp
                              • Not to mention, you guys actually like to SAIL... (grin)
                                • Thanks, it was a good race
                                  • I'll add my congratulations, nice going to you and Randy !
                              • I agree totally...
                                • Kind of a funny thing... sailing vice motoring...
                                  • Yup on the sailboat when we start out with a destination in mind...
                              • Same here on all counts.
                              • You guys confuse me
                                • I bet many groundings are caused by
                                  • A professional mariner made that mistake in your neighborhood about 10 years ago...
                                    • The Norway link doesn't go anywhere that I could find that info
                                      • "No one knows if the AP or chartplotter were even on, let alone integrated." That's all the info everyone has.
                                  • That is a human error
                                    • Everything can be reduced to....
                                      • Not so
                                        • "Crap just happens sometimes"
                                        • Well first....
                                          • You can always tell the old-timers
                                            • Visualize biting one's tongue emoticon....
        • the Hylas 54 is really a wonderful, large, well designed, cruising boat.
      • Not to quible - but they had one under the dodger too.
        • This is the shot from the comfort of the companionway (Display 3)
        • However
          • I would guess that the systems now don't work that way
    • Whoa Al! Do you really speculate the captain plugged a waypoint through islands and reefs, and set sail?
      • Autopilot?
        • What about the dodging lobsterbuoys then?
          • Who dodges pot buoys?
            • We do, or at least we try to
            • I don't pay as much attention to pots sailing either.
      • It has happened before...
        • I can see that mistake happening(pinpoint a hazard with a waypoint), but setting an electronic course,.
          • That's rhumb line.
            • I think they intended to go south of Lasell Island, Al.
      • Tidal Current
  • I was talking to a friend last night, that also hit that rock.
    • Can you plot Archangel's "route" and where she went aground?
      • Beyond an easterly course, SSE wind,...
        • Thanks, Current and sailing course illusion
          • "If you have or look at a chartplotter (or take more complicated bearings and plot your position),..."
    • Schooner Appledore....