believing in even the possibility that these people are telling the truth. Is it the fact that the government has never lied to you? Is it the fact that corporate America has never lied to you. Maybe it's the fact that the guy who invented the Internet never lied to you? Well, I kind of feel that I've been lied too by this bunch a lot! Understanding that, I'm willing to at least listen to these two with an open mind. Bag on them all you want but when you look back at history you find that it's the small rumors that slowly work their way into the main stream that turn out to be true. "We are not bombing Laos or Cambodia and never will!" "I've never heard of the Watergate building..." "We've supported Saddam who?". I just suggest that you keep an open mind. IMHO