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• Future paper charts
  • Agreed, it's an excellent read, I've recommended it here, as well...
    • You mention the Archangel grounding which supports the opposite.
      • I don't think there is ever a case to blame on electronic charts or charting
      • No, my speculation about the loss of RULE 62 is purely that...
        • You seemed so convinced I thought you had some background to what was going on. .
          • As I said, it's nothing more than speculation, based upon what my own eyes and ears have told me over the years...
            • Ocean floors paved in wrecks show that we've been taking risks, pre-gps.
              • I'm a wonderer, as the song goes,
              • Those accidents are not caused by electronic navigation
                • "there are people out there that use a chart plotter with the same approach as a GPS in a car..."
                  • Lost a coupla folks in past years folks following roads that GPS reports but impassable in winter, for example. Yet....
                    • Kinda like 4WD..
                    • Those folks failed to do one thing...
              • Tom, "video game captains" are not a "myth", a summer spent back in NJ might open your eyes...
                • Do you suggest that we outlaw all electronics to make boating much safer?
                  • According to 2011 CG accident data, to make boating safer,...
                  • No
                • The electronics did not cause the accident
                  • You've got it. And what is the difference between plotting on paper with a gps and a chartplotter?
                    • Do you guys really believe this course ever would have been plotted on paper...?
                      • A captain like that will find a way to run aground with our without electronics
                      • I wouldn't believe it ever would have been plotted electronically
                      • (sigh)ok, let's go back 30 years in navigational tech, and save this boat with paper charts.
                        • Of course, no doubt many accidents of yesteryear could have been averted by the use of today's technology...
                          • They made a mistake with their tools, Jon.
                            • Of course they made a mistake with their tools...
                • Sure. these stats were easy to find.
                  • Thanks, Tom - but those numbers are so broad as to have little definitive bearing upon...
                    • You're wrong on few stats there.
                • Electronic navigation has surely drawn in more people who cannot be bothered with learning navigation though.
                  • Too much speculation and assumption in your post for me to take seriously.
                    • Observation, not speculation or assumption.
                      • "Throughout New England I met a lot of boaters that didn't know Port from Starboard"
                        • "Are boaters better educated on the west coast?" No...
                        • There was a Captain aboard a large ship..........
                          • Good one, and if he was dyslexic as well,
                      • Why memorize port and starboard?
                        • Why indeed?
                      • That's a bit extreme. The sailors that I've met in NE were.pretty knowledgable.
                  • That hasn't been my experience
  • This is also available to consumers
    • Interesting
  • I'll be looking for better integration of satelite image on chartware.
    • That already exists in several forms Tom
      • Which cruising area is that?...
        • The Western Caribbean, Brian